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Some folks use helicopters

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: January 11, 2021, 03:57:30 PM »
I need some lychees in my life this year.
Surprisingly, here in small-town Tennessee, our Kroger grocery store had some excellent Melissa's branded lychees last year.
Hoping for a repeat

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit in video games
« on: December 29, 2020, 04:31:26 PM »
I believe there are durian fruits in Super Mario Sunshine.

I told my nephews to please let me know if durian seeds ever appear in Animal Crossing  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas 2020
« on: December 26, 2020, 08:48:11 AM »
Merry Christmas to those who are celebrating!
Blessings and good vibes to all members and their families.

Merry Christmas Triloba Tracker! I'll have to watch some of your youtube videos. Also, it took me the longest time to figure out that you are standing with a guy in a paw paw costume on your prifile pic. Now that I know what it is, it makes sense. Lol!

Hahaha yeah that's me and my wife at the Ohio Pawpaw Festival in 2017

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas 2020
« on: December 25, 2020, 05:43:02 PM »
Merry Christmas to those who are celebrating!
Blessings and good vibes to all members and their families.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annonacin
« on: December 09, 2020, 04:59:56 PM »
I believe it is.
It's certainly in Asimina triloba.

Not sure which species have the least. Not sure anyone knows, maybe Google does. ::)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best flavor: Jabuticaba vs, Muscadines
« on: December 09, 2020, 12:36:44 PM »
One last thing that I will mention is that muscadine peels can make my mouth itch when I eat large amounts of fruit. I think this is a very mild allergic reaction and no one else in my family gets it. I have never had that reaction with Jaboticaba.

Happens to me and my wife too. I think it's pretty common. It's lessened if the fruit is really ripe, it seems. Not sure if it's technically an allergy or just a sensitivity that varies genetically.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Early Golden vs Prok American Persimmon
« on: November 30, 2020, 08:43:10 AM »
I'm thinking of adding an american persimmon tree.

About me and persimmons: I do not like Asian persimmons. I am perfectly happy with wild american persimmons. I like soft/mushy texture and mostly i love the spicy/date/pumpkin pie flavor. I'm not looking for something to cut up or to take multiple bites out of like an apple.

So that being said, I've heard great things about the flavor of Early Golden, though it is not one of the larger varieties.
Otherwise, most folks rave about Prok. I am a little concerned that it might be on the bland side.

Anyone have any thoughts/recommendations?

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic fertilizers
« on: November 24, 2020, 03:33:57 PM »
Sorta to my earlier point, there is something fun about using free or cheap stuff (organic waste) and sorta doing a science Project in order to make fertilizer. The appeal of alchemy I guess.
I went down that road early on, and it was fun while it lasted.

Beyond that....?

The extreme stuff about spraying all kinds of concoctions and constantly adding inputs to the system is to me, well, extreme and wasteful.

Test your soil/tissue, find out whatís lacking if anything and only input what you need. You CAN have too much of anything.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic fertilizers
« on: November 24, 2020, 10:59:13 AM »
Wonderfully put Carolyn.
Very helpful too to hear about your test results.
Iím not terribly experienced but what Iíve come to believe is basically less is more - tinker with the environment as little as possible (speaking of in-ground).

Some people are tinkerers. I think I could be. The idea of all these organic potions is very appealing to tinkerers (including me). Knock yourselves out but be cautious in insisting this is the only way to grow plants.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« on: November 24, 2020, 10:08:23 AM »
The only way i know to lower soil pH reliably is applying granulated elemental sulfur.
I think a lot of the stuff you read, such as pine straw, peat moss, etc doesn't actually work.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pickering's Charge
« on: November 19, 2020, 05:00:54 PM »
yep i was gonna suggest root pruning setup too

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I got a brick chimney Iím thinking of growing passion fruit up.  There is nearby stucco as well.  Will it damage these surfaces?  Heat from the chimney wonít be an issue.  Itís very thick.  Iím super limited on space in the side yard (like 4í wide and Iíd like to keep it that way) so building a trellis a foot off the wall isnít going to work.

Passiflora do not have aerial roots like, say, English Ivy or Virginia Creeper. They climb with tendrils that just lasso around stuff.
So #1 it should not damage your home, but #2 I don't see how it would climb it either without that trellis. :(

Could you build a trellis that hugs much closer to the chimney? I don't see that it needs but just a little clearance to wrap its tendrils.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 16, 2020, 05:57:04 PM »
Enjoy....what a cool thing

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: November 12, 2020, 11:29:01 AM »
Check out growing info on Kentucky State University website - google KSU Pawpaw

Conventional wisdom is 7-9 years i think they say. It could be sooner under ideal conditions and/or lucky genetics.

I have some seedlings, 7 feet tall with lots of branching that are set to flower in their 5th year (next year), though it remains to be seen whether they'll hold fruit.

Good luck!

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for paw paw fruit
« on: October 30, 2020, 08:46:58 AM »
I got a jar of pawpaw jam from Citradia and I can't recommend it enough!
Great stuff!

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Mango pawpaw scion
« on: October 10, 2020, 04:14:38 PM »
KSU asserts it is not possible to root cuttings, root sections, or even air layer pawpaws  :-[

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Pawpaw and Pond Apple
« on: September 24, 2020, 10:11:23 PM »
You may be thinking of usirus who is trying to cross cherimoya with pawpaw.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for paw paw fruit
« on: September 23, 2020, 05:56:16 PM »
Good luck!

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for paw paw fruit
« on: September 23, 2020, 02:45:45 PM »
I can feel your pain!

They are hard to ship but it's not impossible. I don't have any to send and not sure i would trust my packing skills.

Try searching Earthy Delights
http://www.earthy.com/Fresh-Pawpaws-from-Earthy-Delights.aspx


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Pawpaw and Pond Apple
« on: September 22, 2020, 11:53:31 AM »
Good luck!

I just noticed your Signature line - are you interested in A. triloba in that context?
It seems like it would be a great object of research. To me itís like the durian of North American native fruits - it has a powerful aroma (though nothing like durian in scent!) and odd, nuanced, highly variable flavors....

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Pawpaw and Pond Apple
« on: September 21, 2020, 09:52:32 AM »
I just watched a presentation by Kentucky State University pawpaw researchers in which it was asserted that Asimina triloba is not graft-compatible with Annona species.
However, this was not with Annona glabra specifically in mind.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw nutrient deficiency help, please!
« on: September 18, 2020, 05:55:20 PM »
I really appreciate the time youíve taken to help!!

Will keep pondering this one and spend more time on yours and Harís recommendations.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon question
« on: September 18, 2020, 05:08:04 PM »
I don't think that's true. But I'm only 90% sure.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw nutrient deficiency help, please!
« on: September 18, 2020, 05:05:39 PM »
Amazing..thanks!!

So I could either:
1) Reduce the Ca in the soil
2) Supplement Mg in the root zone
3) Supplement Mg via foliar feeding

(1) I doubt this is even possible, however, i had someone tell me that adding phosphorous causes a reaction with calcium that essentially permanently sequesters the calcium in the form of rock phosphate. I'm not sure that's true nor do i know how much phosphorous that would require and if that amount would be toxic to the plants. Seems sketchy.

(2) It seems like adding Mg to the soil would be iffy since we already think the Ca in the soil would kinda "block" it from being absorbed by the roots. However, i wonder if a hit of Mg, especially in liquid form, might still have a fighting chance to be absorbed, at least partially, by the roots. Not sure?

(3) seems the most likely to succeed, but doesn't seem like a true long-term solution. But with that much Calcium (again assuming that's my culprit) I don't know if there's any other way to get Mg to the plant.

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