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Thanks for sharing your experiences everyone.

I think humidity is one of the most important things it needs that we lack in most parts of so cal. The leaves are always brittle, unlike my other Garciniaís like Lucís, Dulce, false mangosteen, and others.

@SoCalBalcony - Iíll never give up on Garcinia's that will grow decent/well here but I donít have time to baby these things along forever and ever, takes long enough for Garciniaís to flower here when theyíre super healthy. I got my false mangosteen seeds from some fallen fruit off the large tree they have at the Fullerton arboretum, so I know SOME species of Garcinia trees can get large here (if you actually live long enough to see them do so) ;)

I get nowhere near your consistent heat, I know - but how do you treat your Luc's? I tend to keep my 2g in southern - but dappled exposure. Right now it sits at the base of my fence, behind the foliage of a potted 5 Gal. Macadamia. I tend to soak it once a week but never keep it soggy. Hasn't moved a millimeter, seems like. But it hasn't declined one bit either. Spent Winter/Spring 2021 out in the Central Coast elements, too.

Wasssss up Pedro I got two in the ground, and 3 in pots that Iím bout to plant in the ground. They are against a north facing wall, sandwiched between two avo trees, they get no direct light in winter. Theyíve been in the ground a couple years and have grown about two leaves per year, ever watch paint dry...but they are super healthy and it looks like they may branch out this year for the first time, so maybe Iíll try some fruit when Iím old and gray...I fertilize em with Holly Tone, or whatever else I have lying around. Also my ďjumbo lucsĒ seems to be the fastest growing, itíll always grow new leaves before the ones in the ground, and the fuyu thatís in the pot. Def seems to be some differences in growing speed between the different varietyís. Peace

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try feeding it a lil more maybe and keeping a dish underneath it

Thanks mang! Nice chickens

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: July 22, 2021, 11:45:21 AM »
Cool, thanks Hawkfish. So maybe it is just an age thang.

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Thanks for sharing your experiences everyone.

I think humidity is one of the most important things it needs that we lack in most parts of so cal. The leaves are always brittle, unlike my other Garciniaís like Lucís, Dulce, false mangosteen, and others.

@SoCalBalcony - Iíll never give up on Garcinia's that will grow decent/well here but I donít have time to baby these things along forever and ever, takes long enough for Garciniaís to flower here when theyíre super healthy. I got my false mangosteen seeds from some fallen fruit off the large tree they have at the Fullerton arboretum, so I know SOME species of Garcinia trees can get large here (if you actually live long enough to see them do so) ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: July 22, 2021, 10:56:04 AM »
I donít think itís a watering thing but maybe more of a humidity or age thing? Mine is planted in the ground, well mulched, and never dries out. However itís only a few years old and our humidity is pretty low, so Iím guessing itís one of those two factors. Time will tell.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit party
« on: July 22, 2021, 10:51:14 AM »
Iím pretty excited to check out your place and Aug 7th works for me. Iím totally flexible on weekends so if you need to move the date again, please keep it to a weekend. Thanks Brad, looking forward to it!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: July 21, 2021, 12:57:05 AM »
This will be the third or fourth time flowering for me, no fruit set with any previous flowerings. This time it has way more flowers than the previous times, and I planted a bunch of flowers around it for the pollinators. Itís been getting hit by every pollinator you can imagine. These trees are monoecious right?

Fingers crossed. Good luck yaíll.

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Trying to track down a few mango scions for a friend. Only need 5 or 6, looking for Sweet Tart, Lemon Zest, Coconut Cream, or any other top tier varietyís.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 20, 2021, 03:55:45 AM »
Has anyone tried the ďZamaranoĒ variety? Whatís the flavor like? Is it worth growing? Thanks
Zamorano is one of my least favourite varieties. It has a weird flavour. ĎPepperyí is the only way I can describe it. More savoury than sweet in my experience 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️


How many years have you fruited it? I saw in a video it may take a couple growing seasons before it taste good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 20, 2021, 03:53:19 AM »
Does anyone know how long pollen is viable for? I have a few DF varieties, but they rarely flower on the same night. Iíve had some success with self fertilization, but nearly 100% success with better tasting and larger fruit when I happen to be able to cross them. Iíd like to be able to collect pollen when any flower so I can cross them more frequently.

I have one growing I think, I bought it as a Zamorano ... we'll see.  Here's a video on Zamorano tasting. ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDaoZ_6bDo8

Thanks Chris. After watching the video this is the third, and completely different, flavor report Iíve seen. So far Iíve heard it taste; like a beet, peppery, and like a watermelon! The lady in the video did say it tasted better than last years crop, so maybe it needs a couple years for the true flavor profile to come out?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 20, 2021, 03:44:27 AM »
Has anyone tried the ďZamaranoĒ variety? Whatís the flavor like? Is it worth growing? Thanks
Zamorano is one of my least favourite varieties. It has a weird flavour. ĎPepperyí is the only way I can describe it. More savoury than sweet in my experience 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Thanks Rannman. I also read somewhere it taste like a beet, ughh...Whatís your favorite variety then?

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THANK YOU Janet! Those seem like awesome suggestions, I think your observations are spot on. Iíll definitely be trying those tactics starting tomorrow. Iíll try to take before and after pics. Out of all the Garciniaís Iím growing this seems to be one of the more difficult ones.

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Itís Black Peak.....psyche! (Haha remember that...) Naw itís just Biqi.

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Thanks guys. Itís all about that dyna gro and iron Simon! 👍🏽

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 18, 2021, 06:51:18 PM »
Has anyone tried the ďZamaranoĒ variety? Whatís the flavor like? Is it worth growing? Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria guaquiea
« on: July 18, 2021, 06:21:42 PM »
super fun to grow, fruits in about 3-5yr from seed, mine did it in 4yrs, i have two of them.

no fruit set the first year, but now 5th year flowering like crazy.

very resilient, concerning humidity, heat, and flooding...easy to fruit in a pot for many years.

I luv these trees, can't wait to taste fruits, I've tasted strigipes, and glazioviana, both of which i enjoy....

here is one for sale now on ebay, i don't have many to sell now...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-Myrciaria-guaquiea-Guaquica-seedling-Very-Few-available-FOR-SALE/193757807891?hash=item2d1cdd8513:g:nPkAAOSw37tftvyp

Anyone get to taste the fruit yet?

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Has anyone in So Cal had any luck growing Garcinia Brasiliensis (superior lemon drop)?

The seedlings I purchased a few years ago continue to struggle and not grow. Theyíve only put on a few inches of new growth, and this winter almost completely defoliated.

Bout to purchase a one way ticket to the compost bin for them soon...

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seedlings for sale
« on: July 17, 2021, 01:16:53 PM »
PM sent for the Eugenia brasiliensis var Erythrocarpa. Thanks

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Nice Simon! Stoked you did all those different grafts, should give us a good idea of what works and what doesnít. The only grafts I attempted, and failed at, were cleft grafts.

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I grafted like 6 really small scions from Shane onto three Californica's and the following is the only one that's still alive, which is a side veneer. Not sure if it's out of woods already but the graft union is healing so I am hopeful.

The other grafts died, along with the two Californica trees. It seems that Californica tends to give up on the entire branch (and tree) if all the rootstock buds are removed. For this reason, I recommend side veneer, and I suggest leaving some buds above and below the graft until you are sure that the graft takes. Be very careful - initial bud break doesn't mean much! You really need patience with Yangmei grafting.





Hey Ken nice work, looking great, so far...when did you graft the side veneer? Looking forward to seeing the progress!
Thanks for sharing.

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Iím starting to have doubts M. Californica is a compatible rootstock for yangmei...if it is, itís not a very good one. After initially pushing, all my Yangmei grafts on M. Californica died. I also have a friend thatís been trying to graft yangmei onto Californica for awhile with no luck. Itís like Fang says, itíll look like theyíre compatible because the scion will push, sometimes even for months, but it will eventually always dry up and die.

Shane, it would be awesome if you could do an experiment by grafting some scions from your male tree onto some M. Californica.

Natty, have you experimented with different rootstocks for your yangmei tree?

I believe yangmei rootstock is the only way to go for grafting yangmei scions. I hope someone can prove me wrong.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 11, 2021, 08:34:57 PM »
Thank you John!! I just collected some S8 pollen last night 😎

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 11, 2021, 03:24:20 PM »
Does anyone know what pollinates Halleys Comet?

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