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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E4 Abiu the best for taste
« on: February 26, 2021, 11:46:33 AM »
How can we get these scions in the us?

X2 ????

Iím trying to clear some trees to make room for a new project. This is a 6 year old tree, produced over 100 fruit this year, and its in ground. I will assist buyer with removal and potting for transport. $300 Firm

Location: Redland, FL (Miami)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Butterscotch Sapodilla
« on: December 26, 2020, 11:28:52 AM »
I love this thread

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ultra rareness
« on: December 17, 2020, 11:51:31 AM »
What is the 9th picture down? Looks like miniature coconut

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this really Ross Sapote ???
« on: December 17, 2020, 11:48:50 AM »
As stated above, after Ross, the next best IMO is Fairchild 2.  I have had good examples of Trompo and Aurea but definitely not 100% consistent as top quality.

Oscar (Fruitlovers) supposedly has a very good selection but I haven't tried it.

I've heard this before as well, so I'll have to be on the lookout in spring for Fairchild #2 budwood. Bye Bye Trompo

Thanks Murahilin and Johnny Redland
I shall take both your suggestions and go forth on my search for a great Malay Apple tree in my own yard. I may go take a look at the one down at Fruit and Spice and decide if itís pretty enough for the front yard. Itís so rare that Iím sure there wonít be too many fruit thieves. My front yard has solid sun.
Thanks again yíall

Once itís established, it fruits so heavily that you might actually welcome some fruit thieves

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this really Ross Sapote ???
« on: December 17, 2020, 09:04:17 AM »
My ross fruits more often with bigger crops than my canistel.

Mike do you prefer Ross over all other Canistels? Or is there another Canistel that can rival it?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this really Ross Sapote ???
« on: December 16, 2020, 04:00:58 PM »
They look close...
Iím growing about 10 seedlings directly from Bill Whitmanís original ĎRossí introduction from 1968.

I look forward to seeing what differences may occur between them since Ross is generally grafted.
Nice to see Shot has some direct specimens from Bill. Were they all grafted?

I'm also growing a single seedling tree, that started VERY slow and is now picking up steam.  I plan to plant-out the seeds from the above pictured fruit if its decent to see what I get.  I also have a grafted specimen that's about 6ft tall now.  But these fruit in the photo will be my first opportunity to taste it.  I know there are better varieties of Canistel than the Trompo I have planted in my yard, but damn that Trompo is bad; its relatively dry and there's just something about the taste that is off-putting. But good lord does it fruit HEAVILY!

Anybody have any recommendations on Canistels that they believe are even better than Ross?  I ask because the Trompo I have will most definitely get top worked in the Spring

One word of warning about Malay apple, it seems like the common nursery stock in Florida (at least from PIN) is not that great.
I had 3 planted so far, one fruit after 8 years (only year to fruit) it been there for like 15 years at this point
I also have one planted at my current house since 2014 and no flowers yet.

Seems like everyone I know who bring seeds from "back home" has much better success with the quality fruit and precocity

Excalibur has two different grafted varieties. A white fruiting type and one that one that gets very dark that is named "Black". I've had the fruit from the Black one a few times and it was pretty good. If I remember correctly, the Black was from a fruit Richard Wilson found in a market in Central America.

In response to being called out, I will admit my daughter loves them. She was eating 3 per sitting of larger ones at the age of 2. But what do those darn kids know anyway  ::)

She has great taste in fruit. I was unsuccessful in trying to convince my kids to try Malay apple fruit this year.

Do you have a tree or did someone give you the fruit?

We've tried the fruit the past 2 years from one of the trees at Fruit and Spice Park.  The tree they have there is different than most, in that it has GIANT leaves.  A friend of mine got budwood from that tree a few years back his trees grow FAST!  All have already flowered and are at least 10-15ft tall in 65 gal pots


I might have to ban you from the forum for speaking ill of one of the greatest fruit in existence.

I would rather a malay apple any day over the majority of fruit.

In response to being called out, I will admit my daughter loves them. She was eating 3 per sitting of larger ones at the age of 2. But what do those darn kids know anyway  ::)

Yes, grows well and fast. Fruit is mediocre, but plentiful and pretty. Flowers are gorgeous

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is this really Ross Sapote ???
« on: December 14, 2020, 07:12:41 PM »
I was sold these so-called ďRossĒ Sapotes. They have yet to ripen so canít comment on taste or flesh, but I thought Ross was smaller and had very visible striations on them. What do you think?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guanabana ( Soursop ) ZONE 9 ???
« on: December 01, 2020, 04:19:31 PM »
Mine all died below 40F. Wind was not a factor.  Trees anywhere from 3ft to 12ft

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guanabana ( Soursop ) ZONE 9 ???
« on: December 01, 2020, 02:16:48 PM »
I live 20 miles north of key largo and ALL of my guanabanas over the years have died from cold winters.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ross sapote 6 feet tall
« on: November 30, 2020, 06:13:53 PM »
Graft or seedling

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mammea americana air layering?
« on: November 22, 2020, 08:24:35 PM »
I am also interested in this . Hope we can get someone to chime in

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WANTED: Ross Sapote Tree of Scions
« on: November 17, 2020, 09:57:45 AM »
7 gallon minimum. Iím in Miami. Also would be interested in 12-15 Scions in springtime. Let me know

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Jujube varieties ?
« on: November 06, 2020, 03:59:09 PM »
I am growing what may be a new variety with large fruit. It's also supposed purported as "thornless", and as it is not completely thornless, if you compare it to any of the other jujubes i've seen, I guess you could call it that.  It's heavily fruiting and flowering now, so I'll know shortly if its something special.  On another note, I've never seen a tree grow as fast as this....It's almost unbelievable. I planted it as a 12" tall stick in February, no leaves or branches.  It is not 8-9 feet tall, 6-8 feet wide, and must have 100+ fruit on it and countless flowers. We are talking 8 months

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lula Avocado
« on: October 06, 2020, 04:27:47 PM »
Lula that I'm used to have a definite bell shape to them. That could be Lula. The telltale sign if you are on the fence is that Lula is SWEETER than most

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon fruit does not fruit
« on: October 01, 2020, 02:20:29 PM »
I have the same problem with mine, and I have many varieties. You are not alone

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is breadfruit worth growing?
« on: September 30, 2020, 11:45:30 AM »
I have a breadfruit tree and there are many in my area, mature size and fruiting heavily.  I'm in the Redland part of Miami and have noticed the trees do well closer to the coast, but have seen some 40-50 footers 10 miles inland. I think its susceptibility to cold weather damage is really based on a tree by tree basis. I've found similar difference in cold hardiness from tree to tree in Guanabana.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Source for large fruit trees in Florida?
« on: September 21, 2020, 11:11:58 AM »
Call Dustin at D's Trees. He'll get you what you need if he doesn't already have it.  305-972-9755

More drainage, less watering is the answer to less rotting.  Some types are worse than others for this.  Maybe try a less prone variety.  Which types have the problem?

All. I have 13 varieties. Drainage not and issue. Rain has been substantial for months

have you tried dusting sulfur?

I just bought a gallon of sulfur. Iíll try that as a foliar and see what happens

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