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jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« on: July 26, 2014, 02:42:46 PM »
Hi, the "paulista" jaboticaba started to produce new leaves into the greenhouse... now maybe you can confirm that it's a paulista (myrciaria cauliflora) or not:












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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2014, 03:13:12 PM »
that's the one.

a true Myrciaria cauliflora....unlike Sabara, which is almost always improperly labeled as this species.
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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2014, 10:45:26 PM »
Huertas,

i don't know if cute is the word you're looking for (but maybe i'm wrong), to me this adjective is reserved for things like, bunnies, kittens, and vern troyer

to me, the appearance of  paulista's new foliage has a more striking and elegant look..with larger leaves, it's definitely more eye-catching, when compared to Sabara's smaller and more inconspicuous new growth.

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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2014, 12:17:57 AM »
that's what I meant (elegant) -sorry, my brain works slow, having to take care of my daughter all day-, you should be marketing my agent!

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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2014, 12:28:50 AM »
that's what I meant (elegant) -sorry, my brain works slow, having to take care of my daughter all day-, you should be marketing my agent!

haha, i don't know about that..I'm more like a pocket thesaurus.   ;D
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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 12:25:08 PM »
Such a beautiful cultivar.  Anyone have experience air-layering jabos who can tell me how long I'm likely to wait (or how long a beard I could grow) before I see rootlets forming?



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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 04:35:05 PM »
Such a beautiful cultivar.  Anyone have experience air-layering jabos who can tell me how long I'm likely to wait (or how long a beard I could grow) before I see rootlets forming?




like 6 months to root in my experience!  but I wouldn't be surprised if you notice the beginnings of root formation in 2.5 months.
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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 06:20:48 PM »
Here is mine in a 25 gallon. Adam, do you know the fruiting time line on these?


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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2015, 06:52:21 PM »
Here is mine in a 25 gallon. Adam, do you know the fruiting time line on these?


Mark,

thats a great pic!  it really shows how pretty the trees foliage is...but let's not forget the peeling multicolored bark, and flowers/fruits on the trunk!!

In my experience Paulista has not been as precocious as Sabara....i've seen large trees that you'd think would have already been fruiting..but had yet to bloom.

I've heard stories from other growers who've got trees over 10yrs, still waiting for them to bear.

I'm guessing the time frame is about 8-12 yrs from seed here in the USA...but could be much sooner in Brazil (5-7yrs)
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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 07:06:52 PM »
Adam,

How about your grafted Paulistas?  Have any of them fruited yet and, if so, how old were they when they started?  Just wondering how long before I am enjoying the golf ball sized jabos from the tree I got from you!  If you would just put all your jabo knowledge in a book, we wouldn't have to continually bother you with these questions!
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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 07:15:36 PM »
Adam,

How about your grafted Paulistas?  Have any of them fruited yet and, if so, how old were they when they started?  Just wondering how long before I am enjoying the golf ball sized jabos from the tree I got from you!  If you would just put all your jabo knowledge in a book, we wouldn't have to continually bother you with these questions!

Brandon,

the paulista i grafted was from a tree that was only about 5-6yrs old (maybe older?) but really small, less than 6 ft tall, and immature....

so I'd imagine that it will take a long time for me....it's already been about 3yrs since I grafted my paulista, and now it looks like it could fruit in the next few years....but u never know...

some seedlings (and even scions) fruit sooner than others....it can be luck of the draw...but keeping the tree properly irrigated, and pruned, and with good acid pH is going to help speed things up.

If you got a grafted paulista from me, it will likely take a long time to fruit...just as long as a seedling I'm assuming...because I only used immature scions.

I was thinking of slapping a book together just to get it done...but now it looks like I'll be making lots of videos instead...I'm just waiting on my brother to start helping...I need a camera man I can cuss at!  :P
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Re: jaboticaba paulista? new growth (can you confirm ID?)
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 11:05:18 PM »
I will just have to scrape by eating reds and grimals for the next 7 to 11 years. Maybe in 3 or 4 years my sabara will kick in. Life will be rough but I will manage somehow. :'( ;) ;D
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