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Eugenia? to ID
« on: August 07, 2015, 02:21:50 PM »
Hi, the tree is not mine, neither the photos:








"ES UN ARBUSTO QUE MIDE 1 METRO DE ALTO (es igual a la eugenia uniflora pero las hojas son más delgadas, esa es la única diferencia del arbusto) LA FRUTA ES ROJA, REDONDA, POSEE UNA SEMILLA CENTRAL, LA PIEL ES BRILLANTE, DELGADA, DE TEXTURA POROSA. EL SABOR ES ÁCIDA Y DULCE, MUY AGRADABLE."






It seems to be similar to eugenia repanda, but I see that the leaves are different...

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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2015, 02:36:51 PM »
lol, maybe this is what Shah8 is growing...looks like E. candolleana, superficially...

very pretty tree!

I wonder how the fruit tastes?  resinous?
fibrous?

looks like the fruit has much less flesh than E. candolleana, and the seed looks like it clings to the flesh more.
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 11:28:39 PM »
:-S

he said -translation:

""It is a shrub that is 1 meter tall (equal to Eugenia uniflora  but the leaves are thinner, that's the only difference I see) The fruit is red, round, has a central SEED, SKIN IS BRILLIANT, THIN, porous texture. The taste is acidic and sweet, very nice. ""


So he has an unknown eugenia? maybe... I will ask about the fibrous and resinous taste...



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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2015, 11:55:11 PM »
and:

"the taste is quite nice, not resinous or astringent. It is slightly sweet and sour. but it is tasty, so much so that fruits are hunted when they mature and not let them fall to the ground ..."

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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2015, 12:06:03 AM »
This basically looks like some strain of E. pyriformis which is quite poorly characterized, as there are a number of very different strains.

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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2015, 12:12:20 AM »
This basically looks like some strain of E. pyriformis which is quite poorly characterized, as there are a number of very different strains.

it doesn't remind me of pyriformis...their fruits are typically yellow or orange...I have never seen one with red fruits....and they have a velvet skin (fuzz) like a peach
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 12:15:21 AM »
and:

"the taste is quite nice, not resinous or astringent. It is slightly sweet and sour. but it is tasty, so much so that fruits are hunted when they mature and not let them fall to the ground ..."

lol...I'd plant about 4 seeds if you can get me some...it's worth a shot..

very pretty tree...

i love Eugenias, even the resinous ones...
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2015, 12:18:31 AM »
Well, how many Eugenias have red fruit of that apparent size?  E. multicosta, anything else?

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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2015, 12:20:49 AM »
Well, how many Eugenias have red fruit of that apparent size?  E. multicosta, anything else?

multicostata is not really round, it's costate...the shape is totally different.

many eugenias have red fruits that size..I can't think of them all...
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2015, 08:21:52 AM »
Hi Huertas,

Maybe it is a variety of the dwarf Pitanga (Eugenia pitanga)... there are varieties with smooth round fruits and I have at least two of these... those leaves do look a little different but even among mine they vary a lot... those sepals on the bottom of the fruit look smaller too... they remind me your fruits of Eugenia repanda but bigger... maybe it is another species (?)
see my photos and tell me what you think.... wouldn't mind to get some of those seeds to grow here and confirm for myself.

 






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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2015, 10:00:13 AM »
Do I really need more Eugenias ? OK....twist my arm ....I am game for a few seeds if available.
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2015, 02:37:06 PM »
Folks: I will try to get seeds, but no response from the person for now.

Miguel: yes, it looks similar to eugenia pitanga, and the bush is 1M tall, so it's small.

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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2015, 03:12:05 PM »
Folks: I will try to get seeds, but no response from the person for now.

Miguel: yes, it looks similar to eugenia pitanga, and the bush is 1M tall, so it's small.

i have several forms of E. pitanga, but none of them have foliage quite like the plant you have pictured.

it's not just the shape of the leaf (midrib prominence, venation, etc.), but the position and arrangement of the foliage.  It is much different than my E. pitangas.

I'm confident that you have a separate species.
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2015, 10:35:24 PM »
Maybe a myrciaria or plinia? another photo:





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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2015, 10:39:32 PM »
Maybe a myrciaria or plinia? another photo:



Can't see your new photos , but the first photos u posted look like Eugenia more than anything
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2015, 11:42:19 PM »
oh, now they dont show... dont know what the problem is

here they are:




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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2015, 11:46:40 PM »
pretty bush.

my guess...

some sort of Eugenia.

get some seeds...

send me at least two.  ;D
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Re: Eugenia to ID
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2015, 11:19:23 PM »
couldnt it be a malpighia?

in my eyes, the answer would be a firm NO
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Re: Eugenia? to ID
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2015, 09:04:29 AM »
Marcos, if the pulp was red, as the young leafs..... Then it could be the ubaia (eugenia patrisii).
But she don´t looks like a pitanga, and the leafs and general aspect also makes her different of Eugenia Matosii... Maybe Eugenia Cuprea?

Do you already identified her?

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Re: Eugenia? to ID
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2015, 05:34:39 PM »
Marcos, if the pulp was red, as the young leafs..... Then it could be the ubaia (eugenia patrisii).
But she don´t looks like a pitanga, and the leafs and general aspect also makes her different of Eugenia Matosii... Maybe Eugenia Cuprea?

Do you already identified her?

No, this tree is from a person at a forum, and I never talked again... I will ask

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Re: Eugenia? to ID
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2015, 05:48:59 PM »
She said that she planted 5 seeds and all of them are growing fine, maybe will take some photos to help to id it.

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Re: Eugenia? to ID
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2015, 01:52:07 PM »
She said that she planted 5 seeds and all of them are growing fine, maybe will take some photos to help to id it.








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Re: Eugenia? to ID
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2015, 03:18:18 PM »
if you get rootstocks of eugenia candolleana, i bet you can graft scions from this tree onto them.

the look very closely related.

there is a chance the grafted trees will fruit much sooner than seedlings.

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Re: Eugenia? to ID
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2015, 03:20:52 PM »
I agree Adam, they look very similar to my candolleana (now doing well in the shade), I will get some seeds in some months if the new government let us bring mails from other countries (your wonderful seeds were blocked!, I am so sad, but new mails should do it!)

 

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