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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2023, 02:40:42 AM »
Theres some kind of plant that is almost the same as achacha called lucs garcinia.  Its named after a guy in mexico called luc who was on this site.  You can search for lucs garcinia here and find more info.  I am not that informed on the difference but I have both types and the Lucs seems to be less affected by the cold weather.

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2023, 08:54:48 AM »
Is there a way to tell the lucs vs achacha seedlings apart?  I errr I mean a friend of mine mixed them up :-[

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2023, 11:26:54 AM »
Achachairu leaves are long and slender, Lucs nots so much.

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2023, 02:02:04 PM »
Iíve left small Garcinia seedlings outside this winter in Napa, 9b. I have managed to kill most of them this way. So far Lemon Drop seems to be the most hardy. Maybe a Lucís will pull through. But Achacha, Superior Lemin Drop, and Seashore mangosteen look like they arenít going to make it. I NEED to grow Achacha so Iím starting more seeds and will take better protection measures for a few years but if they canít ultimately survive outside then Iíll give it up.

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2023, 02:20:01 PM »
Iíve left small Garcinia seedlings outside this winter in Napa, 9b. I have managed to kill most of them this way. So far Lemon Drop seems to be the most hardy. Maybe a Lucís will pull through. But Achacha, Superior Lemin Drop, and Seashore mangosteen look like they arenít going to make it. I NEED to grow Achacha so Iím starting more seeds and will take better protection measures for a few years but if they canít ultimately survive outside then Iíll give it up.

I tried all number of garcinia even in my greenhouse, and no go. I gave up. If I were in 10A I would plant by a house and forget about it for a decade... But 9b outdoors, fuhgettaboutit.

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2023, 02:38:25 PM »
hey strom hereís a side by side, Achacha left lucís right


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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2023, 04:03:36 PM »
Anecdotal but I had a small Achacha probably about 9 inches outdoors and it looks like it didn't make it here in 10B.  Probably a combo of the cold/rain/windy winter we have had (for Southern California standards anyways) and its young age.  I did tuck it away indoor about halfway through winter but probably too little too late.  Garcinia Madruno on the other hand basically went through the same conditions and is perfectly fine.  I may try getting an Achacha again, but seems like a lot of time and work babying it here in infancy to get it going.

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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2023, 07:18:42 PM »
I have a couple Achachas that were approximately 4 ft high, nicely branched, doing well in an unheated greenhouse. I slowly introduced them to outdoor shade then full sun over a spring and summer. The new leaves would get trashed whenever there was a windy day under outdoor shade but would grow ok. Once exposed to full sun, the tree would get burnt to hell and new leaves would not fully develop.  Over the following winter, lots of dieback exposed to the elements.  I dug them up and potted them back in the greenhouse to recover and are doing fine.
You can grow them here, but they need a lot of protection from the elements, particularly if you live more inland.  Most seedling Garcinias that I have acquired do just fine in pots in a greenhouse, even with regular mid-high 30F nights. Space will eventually be the concern. Eventually will be a long time based on their slow growth. 

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2023, 08:44:08 PM »
Yeah I could see the cold wind being a factor with the death of mine.  I may try again at a later point. I'm just glad the Madrunomade it or I would be Garcinia-less.  The Frankies Garcinia and Garcinia Macrophylla will be my next winter experiment (that hopefully doesn't die  :)).

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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2023, 11:46:27 PM »
I have 5 achachas. 1 in the ground & 4 on the pots. I leave them outdoors unprotected and take my weather like a champ. I had em for 3 yrs now i think & have 8 lucs.

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2023, 01:47:45 PM »
My Achachairu does fine here in Long Beach.  It has been in the ground for 2-3 years.  It is about 5 feet tall.  It doesn't mind our cold wet winters at all.  In summer it does get mostly shade.  So it is growing slow.  Before it was in the ground it got half sun during summer and did fine.  Actually none of my Garcinias have seemed to mind winter here.  Even small seedlings.

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2023, 01:41:58 AM »
Anyone want to post some photos of your trees? Would be great to see some planted treesÖshape, size,etc.
sounds like they grow slowly for us here in SoCal

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2023, 02:30:26 PM »





Lucs on the left and achqcha on the right







I dont protect these on the summer & winter tho they are close to the wall.

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Re: Achacha in California?
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2023, 01:49:57 AM »
Very nice. Iím really curious about growing this one.  Thanks for posting

 

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