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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #125 on: June 09, 2018, 08:50:23 AM »
This one is fully mature with firm brown seeds and the last couple I had that were not as sweet seem to have coloured before they were mature. They were also much smaller that this one.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #126 on: June 09, 2018, 08:55:24 AM »
Seems to have been fertilised by something

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2018, 09:24:34 AM »
Not necessarily if some nucellar embryony is going on. Some citrus and mangosteens are examples of where the 'seeds' are clones of the parent.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #128 on: June 09, 2018, 10:57:21 AM »
Aloha
Soon I'll be planting our 4 russels sweet in the earth. They are also  about 2ft tall.
Mike T thanks again for spreading this gem of a fruiT! Do you know if the seeds sent to Hawaii were from a pollinated fruit from a male?
I recently read that the females if unpollinated will only make female seed.  Wonder if it true?
Hopefully one of us in Hawaii has male scions to share in the future.
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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2018, 06:34:58 PM »
The Hawaiian seeds came from the original trees in Russells yard and were large fruit with male pollinated seeds.They looked more like this.




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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #130 on: June 12, 2018, 08:13:39 PM »
Not necessarily if some nucellar embryony is going on. Some citrus and mangosteens are examples of where the 'seeds' are clones of the parent.
Correct. Many garcinia species are able to produce fruit without pollination (see Prosea book chapter on garcinias.)
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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #131 on: June 12, 2018, 08:23:04 PM »
I donít know that book, is it online?  If not could you post a list of desirable garcinias that produce fruit without pollination?
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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #133 on: July 18, 2018, 09:30:40 AM »
Is there anyone selling seeds?

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #134 on: July 19, 2018, 01:51:37 AM »
I've been dying for this plant and/or seeds for years. Sucks I missed Adam's auction. The journey continues. Chris
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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #135 on: July 20, 2018, 02:25:08 AM »
wow... i'm feeling pretty lucky to have my 4 trees in the ground and growing well!   i should have seeds for sale in like 5 years..  hahahah  sit tight everyone.  hope these grow well in hawaii
With 3 acres of prime real estate for growing tropicals... why not create my own garden of eden?? Work in progress

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #136 on: September 01, 2018, 09:56:25 PM »
Interested in seeds whenever anyone has them available again.
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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #137 on: September 01, 2018, 10:55:54 PM »


While the female tree flowers well on the right the smaller male is not yet producing. The second day of spring and no rain for weeks with temps at 30c but they are looking fine.

The foliage of the male looks healthy enough and this shows the growth habit which is quite unusual.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #138 on: September 01, 2018, 11:51:57 PM »
Wow!
In the photos, in the picture it looks like a big difference in the leaf shape/ size.  Should I look at my ones and assess growth/leaf size for sex prediction ?  All of them are the same age but some are a lot smaller. 
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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #139 on: September 02, 2018, 12:35:41 AM »


The new terminal leaves are bigger on main growing tips like on the female plant here. They flatten after a while and there are smaller leaves of course.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #140 on: February 01, 2021, 06:27:30 AM »



Here is a 300g example of a Russell Sweet fruit. People have asked me to be more explicit in why they are different from sweet dulcis. The trees are different in shape from all dulcis not being so cone like and having a growth habit like achacha. The shoulders on the leaves are very distinctive, separate sexes. the specific appearance of the stems and quite a few other characteristics separate them. It is the taste of the fruit which really makes them unlike related Garcinias. There is no sourness and acidity is less than the sweetest dulcis and a mild peach like flavour is present.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #141 on: February 01, 2021, 06:41:21 AM »


Here is the typical foliage of dulcis which is quite different from Russells Sweet if you look at pics posted previously in this thread.The trees look very unlike each other.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #142 on: February 01, 2021, 06:41:48 PM »
Hi Mike or Jim reeves are any of these seeds/plants available in cairns? Can either of you provide a contact i would like to grow a few of these?

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #143 on: February 01, 2021, 08:15:23 PM »


Instead of the usual one or two seeds this one had 5 and was not particularly big. Tropo Stevo who is on this forum and who you have spoken to recently may have some seeds.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #144 on: February 01, 2021, 08:21:46 PM »


Instead of the usual one or two seeds this one had 5 and was not particularly big. Tropo Stevo who is on this forum and who you have spoken to recently may have some seeds.

Thanks mike will send him a message.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #145 on: February 02, 2021, 01:25:49 AM »




Tropo I only have a few seeds and fruit myself.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #146 on: February 03, 2021, 08:39:12 PM »


Three more large fruit.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #147 on: April 06, 2021, 06:38:46 AM »
The biggest and oldest Russell Sweet tree around is a female about 40 years old. I had a look at the 100s of fruit on this tree today about 3 hrs ago and the biggest were almost 1lb. Here a few to look at.







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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #148 on: April 06, 2021, 12:36:57 PM »
I am sure I am not alone in the excitement For when this is even more slightly widely distributed.
Thanks for stoking the fire and telling the story Mike.

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Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« Reply #149 on: April 07, 2021, 03:25:06 AM »
The flesh yield was measured at over 75% in a medium sized fruit and would be higher for small fruit with just one or two seeds. I dont know of any other Garcinias with a yield as good.