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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1300 on: September 25, 2017, 06:40:31 AM »
Hi, so, if we in the U.S.A want to order from E-Jardim, can we? Will the seeds arrive? I love the webpage but, since I don't speak Portuguese I'm a bit concerned. Any info would be appreciated. Best regards, Chris

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1301 on: September 25, 2017, 06:42:39 AM »
its leaves remind me to some other jaboticaba species... maybe they are similar to aureana?

Maybe Marcos... The young leafs are to much similar.

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« Reply #1302 on: September 25, 2017, 07:58:43 AM »
Hi
About Peluda do Mucuri.

On the leaves they look like Aureana, it is only conscide, when adult the tree does not resemble anything with Aureanas, is a unique morphology, different from the other jabuticaba, the leaves have a very thin velvet on them.

Is a very slow jabuticaba, in 2011, E-Jardim gave me a seedling in a 300 cm 3 tube, today the seedling has 1 m, and it is extremely slow!

Compared with the other Peludas Jabuticabas, type the Peluda of Alagoas and the Peluda of Jequitinhonha this is the slowest

I have had the pleasure of meeting the personal fruit last year, it is slightly larger than the fruits of some sabarás, has a very thick bark, the flavor reminded me something like a sabará mixed with some variety of ponhema jabuticaba, acidulated, but sweet, a sweet / sour taste with lychee (did not say it tastes like lychee!).

About this confusion about the jabuticabas, I am not a great collector of jabuticabas has approximately 40 varieties, many are still young, imagine the guys who are dedicated to them?

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its leaves remind me to some other jaboticaba species... maybe they are similar to aureana?


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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1303 on: September 25, 2017, 01:28:07 PM »
Comparison of Mucuri Leaves with a Aureana;

Mucuri has much smaller leaves.


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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1304 on: September 25, 2017, 06:45:40 PM »
Maybe macuri can be grafted on aureana, or could be crossed?

Hey, Alexandre, now that you show their leaves -very thanks for that!-, I would like o have good photos of the most common jaboticaba species: m. coronata, m.  jaboticaba sabará, m. cauliflora (paulista...) ... could you take photos like you did with m.  aureana and macurí?

It is so difficult to ID them seing photos on the net!

Having photos of new sprouts would be very useful so! I can collaborate if I can ID my jabos exactly...

I found these:

http://ciprest.blogspot.com.ar/search/label/Jabuticaba%20Coroada%20ou%20Olho%20de%20Boi%20-%20Myrciaria%20coronata

http://ciprest.blogspot.com.ar/search/label/Jabuticaba%20Ponhema%20-%20Myrciaria%20caulifora

http://ciprest.blogspot.com.ar/search/label/Jabuticaba%20Sabar%C3%A1%20-%20Myrciaria%20cauliflora
(why they call sabará to m. cauliflora???)



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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1305 on: September 25, 2017, 08:48:41 PM »
Hello,

If I have time I'll send you photos, these days I'm busy here.

Aureanas are flat boring trees, use some sabará or the common hybrid to make grafts, will have more success.

there are many local names, and not everything is on the internet, for example here where I live, I have seen more than 10 types of Jabuticaba Olho de Boi, so this is very variable and not everything on the internet, jabuticabas has many endemisms, the sometimes an isolated type of the same species looks different than another of the same species.

About these sites, I have no information, I have no contact.









Maybe macuri can be grafted on aureana, or could be crossed?

Hey, Alexandre, now that you show their leaves -very thanks for that!-, I would like o have good photos of the most common jaboticaba species: m. coronata, m.  jaboticaba sabará, m. cauliflora (paulista...) ... could you take photos like you did with m.  aureana and macurí?

It is so difficult to ID them seing photos on the net!

Having photos of new sprouts would be very useful so! I can collaborate if I can ID my jabos exactly...

I found these:

http://ciprest.blogspot.com.ar/search/label/Jabuticaba%20Coroada%20ou%20Olho%20de%20Boi%20-%20Myrciaria%20coronata

http://ciprest.blogspot.com.ar/search/label/Jabuticaba%20Ponhema%20-%20Myrciaria%20caulifora

http://ciprest.blogspot.com.ar/search/label/Jabuticaba%20Sabar%C3%A1%20-%20Myrciaria%20cauliflora
(why they call sabará to m. cauliflora???)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1306 on: September 26, 2017, 12:07:10 AM »
Alexandre: I cant understand why you wrote flat boring trees about m. aureana...

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1307 on: September 26, 2017, 06:19:19 AM »
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1308 on: September 26, 2017, 07:41:11 AM »

Hello Gustavo

How long we did not talk!

I sent you a pm.

I do not understand your message









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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1309 on: September 26, 2017, 07:43:33 AM »
Alexandre: I cant understand why you wrote flat boring trees about m. aureana...

I thought in Portuguese when I wrote:

Boring or CHATO in Portuguese, I meant difficult.

Hard to graft, poor compatibility.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1310 on: September 26, 2017, 12:32:02 PM »
Ah, haha, now I get it, as long as the flavour is good, any tree is fun/exciting to me

"If I have time I'll send you photos, these days I'm busy here."

Ok, very thanks, it would be great to have true myrciaria jaboticaba photos along with true myrciaria cauliflora and m. coronata!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1311 on: October 06, 2017, 11:16:41 PM »
Feeling pretty proud of my red jabo right now. Its been fruiting non stop all year and becoming more and more productive.








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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1312 on: October 07, 2017, 01:30:24 AM »
xshen,

Looks like your Jabo tree is in pot and loaded with fruits, impressive!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1313 on: October 07, 2017, 06:28:32 AM »
Just gorgeous.

How big is that pot xshen?
The Earth laughs in flowers. And bear gifts through fruits.
No where to plant it ...but at least I got it. ;)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1314 on: October 07, 2017, 06:38:39 AM »
Hi, beautiful tree indeed. I dont get it why I see photos of red fruits on the net but some trees or photos show black fruits from the red hibrid jabo...


By the way: do you think that this fruit could be of a red hibrid jabo?

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2015/05/10/probando-otro-jaboticaba/







A woman gave it to me 2 years ago and I dont have photos of the mother plant! the taste was amazing.

I found a photo of a seedling from that fruit, It died then but I have these photos of 2015





it looks like the red...





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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1315 on: October 07, 2017, 09:13:09 PM »
Just gorgeous.

How big is that pot xshen?

Thanks!! It's in a 25gal pot.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1316 on: November 20, 2017, 01:59:43 PM »
Hello all...

I would like to openly admit I have a problem.
Much like my childhood where I spent days catching all the Pokemon.
Now all I want to do is collect and eat the fruits of as many Jabuticaba as I can get my hands on.

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Plinia phitrantha Costada - (3-4" tall seedlings)
Plinia phitrantha Rosa de Pescoco - Seedlings (Incoming shipment)
Plinia sp. Roxa Polpa seeds (Purple pulp) (incoming shipment)



Myrciaria cauliflora Hybrid - Red Jabuticaba Seedling


Myrciaria cauliflora Hybrid - Red Jabuticaba Seedling


Myrciaria cauliflora Hybrid - Red Jabuticaba Seedling


Myrciaria cauliflora hybrid - Red Jabuticaba seedling


Myrciaria cauliflora hybrid - Red Jabuticaba seedling


Plinia aureana - White Jabuticaba seedling


Myrciaria strigipes - Beach Combuca (Grafted by Flying Fox Fruits)


Myrciaria strigipes - Beach Combuca (Grafted by Flying Fox Fruits)- Did not enjoy 100+ F. and full sun exposure


Myrciaria glazioviana - Yellow Jabuticaba seedling


Myrciaria vexator - False Jabuticaba, Blue Jabuticaba seedling


Myrciaria vexator - False Jabuticaba, Blue Jabuticaba seedling


Plinia jabuticaba Sabara - Seedling; Supposedly 8-9 years old


Plinia jabuticaba Sabara - Seedling; Supposedly 8-9 years old


Plinia jabuticaba Sabara - Seedling; Supposedly 8-9 years old


Plinia jabuticaba Sabara - Seedling; Not sure of age, purchased as 5 gal from Plantogram in spring of 2015.


Plinia jabuticaba Sabara - Seedling; Not sure of age, purchased as 5 gal from Plantogram in spring of 2015.


Plinia jabuticaba Sabara - Seedling; Not sure of age, purchased as 5 gal from Plantogram in spring of 2015.


Plinia sp. Escarlate - Seedling


Plinia sp. Escarlate - Seedling


Plinia sp. Grimal - Seedling; I heard these were good...


Plinia sp. Grimal - Grafted on Sabara (Flying Fox Fruits)


Plinia sp. Grimal - Grafted on Sabara (Flying Fox Fruits)


Plinia sp. Grimal - Grafted on Sabara (Flying Fox Fruits)


Plinia sp. Grimal - Grafted on Sabara (Flying Fox Fruits)


Plinia edulis - Combuca Seedling; Purchased from 7heads June 2017


Plinia edulis - Combuca Seedling; Purchased from 7heads June 2017


Plinia edulis - Combuca Seedling; Purchased from 7heads June 2017; exposed to full sun during 100-105* F. days.


Plinia inflata - Mulchi Seedling


Plinia sp. - Dwarf Mulchi - Seedling


Myrciaria dubia - Camu Camu seedling

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1317 on: November 20, 2017, 02:55:09 PM »
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« Reply #1318 on: November 20, 2017, 04:08:22 PM »
 ISpendTooMuchTimeHere Nice collection! Find some unknown one and name it "Plinia sudowoodo" for reminding of a great Pokemon childhood :D
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« Reply #1319 on: December 27, 2017, 11:00:54 AM »
ISpendTooMuchTimeHere

a couplpe of really large plants
i hav stayed away from plantogram cause they seemed very expensive
but, that is a huge jabo for only being in ground 2 yrs
was it a 7 gallon ?

so
on a separate note.
i have a red from (flyingfox) that has been through hell.
i first had put it in ground when too small, and the couple of frosts we have had really hurt it
or, at least set it back.
then the first time i gave it iron was not in a chelated form
and did nt help.
the water here is very alkaline, which i just found out recently also.
i also had to dig it up and replant it
i had planted it too deep, and with the large amount of mulch i used
it swamped the trunk.

but, its now perking up
ive decided to only very lightly prune it for now
just pruning inside crossing and interior small growth.
ive left the lower branches alone
i figure the more photosynthesis it does, the faster roots will grow.


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this is the first Jabo i got from PIN about 4 years ago (below)
it took a while to adjust going in ground 2 years ago
then, last winter, we had 1 night that froze
it very rarely gets under 30F here, but, it hit 27F that night

i actually planted it just 1ft from the cement walkway, thinking it would hold heat
and somewhat protect the plant and roots
i dont think any roots were damaged, as it regrew pretty quick
but, the main trunk completely died out.
all the new growth is making this more of a bush, than a tree in habit.

the snow/sleet pic is from this year (2 weeks ago)
and just burned a few leaves since it warmed quickly the next morning.







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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1320 on: December 27, 2017, 01:45:51 PM »
nice update, greenman62, thanks for sharing.

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a couplpe of really large plants
i hav stayed away from plantogram cause they seemed very expensive
but, that is a huge jabo for only being in ground 2 yrs
was it a 7 gallon ?

so
on a separate note.
i have a red from (flyingfox) that has been through hell.
i first had put it in ground when too small, and the couple of frosts we have had really hurt it
or, at least set it back.
then the first time i gave it iron was not in a chelated form
and did nt help.
the water here is very alkaline, which i just found out recently also.
i also had to dig it up and replant it
i had planted it too deep, and with the large amount of mulch i used
it swamped the trunk.

but, its now perking up
ive decided to only very lightly prune it for now
just pruning inside crossing and interior small growth.
ive left the lower branches alone
i figure the more photosynthesis it does, the faster roots will grow.


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this is the first Jabo i got from PIN about 4 years ago (below)
it took a while to adjust going in ground 2 years ago
then, last winter, we had 1 night that froze
it very rarely gets under 30F here, but, it hit 27F that night

i actually planted it just 1ft from the cement walkway, thinking it would hold heat
and somewhat protect the plant and roots
i dont think any roots were damaged, as it regrew pretty quick
but, the main trunk completely died out.
all the new growth is making this more of a bush, than a tree in habit.

the snow/sleet pic is from this year (2 weeks ago)
and just burned a few leaves since it warmed quickly the next morning.






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« Reply #1322 on: January 19, 2018, 01:26:48 AM »
Not sure how to respond to those photos Adam other than to wish you best of luck. Some of the photos are eerily pretty even though a part of me cringes when I think about it. Are you still shipping/selling jabos? If you’re not too preoccupied with damage control, I’d be interested in a few varieties.

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« Reply #1323 on: January 19, 2018, 11:13:44 AM »
Wow, first of Xue I'm happy for you that your red jabo is fruiting congrats.  ;)
spenTooMuchTimeHere congrates for a amazing collection just beautiful ;) 8)
Lastly Adam, sorry to see those pic's of your place I'm hoping that all that ice was because of you spraying water on your Jabo's to try and keep then alive? Hoping the best for you,keep us post after you thaw out!! :(

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1324 on: January 23, 2018, 02:23:44 PM »
the ice really helped protect the plants, i got some vexator fruits that iced over like 4 times, and still held on and look like they are getting ripe!    even sensitive stuff like Plinia inflata did great, and the ice got so heavy, it pulled the trees down, uprooting them from their pots, but they didn't mind, because it was so wet, and cold....if it was hot and dry, it would have been a different story, but they all seem to be doing very well.  Winter is not over, Feb is usually the worst month...but I'm fighting hard to keep everything alive....and always have a plan B.
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