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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #675 on: January 25, 2024, 04:55:54 PM »
Do you buy it locally Mick?
My sunan had its first flowers but none of them came to anything even though I hand pollinated - guess thatís not surprising for first flowers

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #676 on: January 25, 2024, 08:28:10 PM »
Yes, at the local Agricultural store. Good news about the flower, but shame about the lack of fruit set. I bought a sunan a couple of months ago which is growing well.

We had some strong winds where this morning. Offshore from here had gusts to around 60km/h. A few of my durians were getting bashed around a bit but I'm sure they'll be fine. My stakes have done a good job at keeping most of them upright.

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #677 on: January 26, 2024, 06:36:39 PM »
Thanks Mick
Funny how it varies - We only got a few gusts in Freshwater but 5 minute drive away in redlynch there are tree branches off everywhere. A friend with a large orchard up in redlynch reckons the damage from the catabaric(?spelling) winds coming off the interior from cyclones a long way south have more damage to her trees than actual cyclones over the last few decades

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #678 on: January 30, 2024, 03:09:46 PM »
Anybody has experience planting durians this size?? I wonder how thriving they will be with time given limited root system in a container? Will they be somewhat limited through entire life? Probably first year won't even grow at all, just try to adjust and establish itself?




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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #679 on: January 30, 2024, 03:29:37 PM »
No experience planting trees anywhere near that size for me. They are huge :). What you say makes sense to me but I'd be interested if anyone has experience planting something like these.

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #680 on: January 30, 2024, 06:00:58 PM »
No experience planting trees anywhere near that size for me. They are huge :). What you say makes sense to me but I'd be interested if anyone has experience planting something like these.

Yes, just trying to figure out whether to go with this size, or much smaller but initial smaller tree would be healthier and more productive long term.

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #681 on: January 31, 2024, 08:23:35 AM »
Are those grafted or seedlings?
I think they are to be avoided but that doesnít mean I wouldnít plant that😂.
Perhaps I would do a lot of foliage thinning and cut root tips to try and stimulate them. Iím thinking that those trees might have been in the ground, then dug out to sell??
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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #682 on: January 31, 2024, 10:31:24 AM »
Are those grafted or seedlings?
I think they are to be avoided but that doesnít mean I wouldnít plant that😂.
Perhaps I would do a lot of foliage thinning and cut root tips to try and stimulate them. Iím thinking that those trees might have been in the ground, then dug out to sell??
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Thank you for the tips. I have no idea if they have been in the ground. Yes, trees are grafted. No other size available at the moment. I really want this variety, hence willing to take a risk. Picture send to me by reliable guy in a nursery business who has 2 hectares of just mamey to experiment on. I would trust him with everything else, just don't trust with durian roots :)  Hence, the question.

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #683 on: January 31, 2024, 04:15:59 PM »
if they are grafted just buy one and do a ton of approach grafts off it. you would definately have to do a root prune. i dug up my durian that was significantly smaller and in a pot for three or so years and even after two years in the ground it was still root bound and i could just pull it out of the ground pretty much

 This was after two years in the ground. We are not in the best climate for them so the root development wonít be the same as the idea environment but still not the best


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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #684 on: January 31, 2024, 04:35:26 PM »
Potted durians can be big enough to fruit in a container, have seen it and posted about it before. I bet those have stayed in the pots, thinking the trees would not survive being up-potted after being in the ground but canít be sure. Those trees still look worth planting to me, should be fruiting soon if not already

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #685 on: February 05, 2024, 06:05:49 AM »
Most large trees that I have bought and planted  was over taken in growth by direct seeded trees in 3 years.
I no longer buy anything that is over 1-2 years old unless itís like the only way to get that species.
Iív seen a 2,3m durian seedling being planted. 2 years later it was almost dead with a new shoot comming from the hypercotle. Lots of money and energy wasted.
A direct seeded durian  xan reach 2m in 1, 5 years from seed sown.

Itís a good idea though to buy a grafted plant or marcott and then approach graft on it until it dies.


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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #686 on: February 05, 2024, 06:11:50 AM »
if they are grafted just buy one and do a ton of approach grafts off it. you would definately have to do a root prune. i dug up my durian that was significantly smaller and in a pot for three or so years and even after two years in the ground it was still root bound and i could just pull it out of the ground pretty much

 This was after two years in the ground. We are not in the best climate for them so the root development wonít be the same as the idea environment but still not the best



Wow thatís a sick root system.
Iív measured durian tap roots and on average after one year from seed sown they are over 40cm long.
So Iív manufactured special long pots for them.
The common 4,5L pots are only good for a few months.
Airpruning is a good, compromise but need air pruning pots or native plant tubes with the holding tray.
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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #687 on: February 05, 2024, 08:15:08 AM »
What do you think about cutting the taproot?  I think there is a case to be made that encouraging more lateral root development the tree can feed easier.
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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #688 on: February 06, 2024, 07:06:55 PM »
I use deep pots and will cut the tap root where they hit the bottom of the pot. I've pulled a few durian out with root problems (bought, not grown myself). Planting durian with a curled up tap root is a bad idea I think. I wonder sometimes if people up pot durian which are root bound which masks the problem.

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Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« Reply #689 on: May 15, 2024, 11:51:03 PM »
I found a page on FB called Florida durio growers.

 

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