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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #650 on: September 16, 2023, 12:55:39 AM »
Looks good Simon. What % take did you have grafting yangmei? Im about %25.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #651 on: September 16, 2023, 02:03:03 AM »
I get about 90% takeís depending on the season.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #652 on: September 16, 2023, 05:28:09 PM »
Decided to drop my Crystal Yang into the ground with the cooler weather upon us and a bunch of new growth popping. This is the only one I have been able to keep alive so it better survive damnit.  Itís been a week, so far so good.   No germination yet from the Calmei seeds that I planted a couple months back.




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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #653 on: September 16, 2023, 07:31:20 PM »

This one is in one of the best spots on the entire property. It used to have a cherimoya but it died, it seems to be doing pretty well.


This one has been in ground for some months, hasn't grown much at all but I see some promising signs at the nodes.
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #654 on: September 17, 2023, 11:13:01 PM »
Those two seedlings look pretty happy. If you can get them to flush once or twice, youíll probably be out of the woods.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #655 on: September 18, 2023, 12:31:29 AM »
I get about 90% takeís depending on the season.

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Wow! Any lessons learned? I've come to appreciate the value of fresh scions but other than that not sure what drives uo the success rate...

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #656 on: September 19, 2023, 11:17:21 AM »
So far these guys have been much more difficult then I first thought, but slowly learning to keep them happy.

I've been using approach graft onto californica roots with great success. I had 2 mothers to start this spring and am up to 6 plants now and gonna set up a few more grafts this week.


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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #657 on: September 19, 2023, 04:10:34 PM »
I get about 90% takeís depending on the season.

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Wow! Any lessons learned? I've come to appreciate the value of fresh scions but other than that not sure what drives uo the success rate...

The freshness of the scion and the health and stage of growth for rootstock are the two major factors but all the other factors that affect any type of grafts are also very important. When I graft, I think in terms of energy. I prefer to graft onto the dominant branches because there is more sap flow going to the apically dominant branches. If I graft onto a non-apically dominant branch, I will often cut off or shorten nearby branches in order to make the branch I just grafted onto the most dominant branch.

About a week or two after grafting is when the callous tissue normally starts growing rapidly in order to form the new union and this coincides with a growth flush that normally occurs at this time due to the removal of nearby apically dominant branches. With this growth flush, lots of new buds will appear and you can significantly decrease the odds of your grafts taking if you donít remove these buds. This is one of the major mistakes I see grafters make.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #658 on: September 23, 2023, 04:23:31 PM »
Hey everyone, please post here if/when you notice blooms on your plants. Last year, I had my female blooms open up around the end of January for An Hai and Dongkui. Iím trying to trend this data so that we can match male pollinators with female blooms.

Your location and variety is important information as well. Areas with higher heat units and a higher daily light integral will likely get earlier fruit and the cooler areas with lower DLIís will probably give us the later harvests but I would like to keep track of these data points.

Since many of our male trees are seedlings, they may have a wide range of bloom times. I would love to track when the buds first start forming, when they open their blooms and how long the bloom period is. Same goes for the female trees.

The regular vegetative buds look more pointed and the flower buds are more oval and have pine cone like bracts that look like mini hops buds. See page 15 of this thread for a pic of female buds from last year.

If everyone tracks their data here, we can trend the data to help everyone grow and fertilize our trees more efficiently and also potentially increase our yields by having the right combination of male and female varieties for best cross pollination and potentially an extended harvest season by planting/grafting early and late season male/female combinations. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #659 on: September 23, 2023, 08:35:30 PM »
Biqi seedling. Fruited last year. Carlsbad, CA. 4 miles from the coast. This is from the part of the tree that has flowered last couple years. 2-3 times a year. Looks like flower buds to me.


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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #660 on: September 23, 2023, 08:38:51 PM »
Biqi seedling. Fruited last year. Carlsbad, CA. 4 miles from the coast. This is from the part of the tree that has flowered last couple years. 2-3 times a year. Looks like flower buds to me.



Putative male branch grafted a few months ago:


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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #661 on: September 23, 2023, 10:10:49 PM »
Nice Shane,

Your tree is large and hopefully youíll get a bunch of fruit this coming year.

Hereís a picture of what a typical vegetative bud looks like.




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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #662 on: September 23, 2023, 11:01:40 PM »
Biqi seedling. Fruited last year. Carlsbad, CA. 4 miles from the coast. This is from the part of the tree that has flowered last couple years. 2-3 times a year. Looks like flower buds to me.



Putative male branch grafted a few months ago:



Hopefully 2024 flowers show it to be a male! The mother plant of those grafts is the fastest grower out of all my yangmei and came as a male so Im betting it is!


 

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