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In February of this year I ordered a bunch of random seeds from Bellamy.  I was poking around my greenhouse today and noticed that one of these had flowers and fruitlets forming, only nine months after planting thje seed.





I hope Kameron won't mind me posting his description here, from https://www.bellamytrees.com/seeds/p/fruta-do-mistrio-fruit-of-mystery
"Fruta do Mistério - Fruit of Mystery
Seeds were imported directly from Brazil. This is thought to be Syzygium sp but it is not for certain. It is a small dense bush, that always stays small. Due to its size, it can stay in a container long term, or maybe even used for bonsai. The plant fruits abundantly, and several times a year. This plant like well-draining soil and lots of sun. The fruits are said to be good and eaten out of hand and are very sweet. Each fruit contains only one seed. Collectors in Brazil have reported that their seedlings are starting to produce after only 2-3 years from seed!"

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These particular ones were pre-germinated and most of them sprouted and survived.  I don't remember if I tossed the excess or if I have a few more floating around my greenhouse somewhere.  I guess it is possible there's another one flowering in my greenhouse and some flies cross-pollinated, but most likely these are just easily self-fruitful.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2023, 11:23:24 AM »
the mystery deepens....

nice!

your greenhouse is coming into pretty good production brian, I feel like I am seeing a new fruit pic every few weeks

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2023, 12:54:43 PM »
I may be shooting at ghosts but your plant and its leaves look very much like it could be some sort of guava –or a guava relative.

That is abetted by the persistent green sepals on the flower-end of the fruit.

Cheers!

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2023, 02:21:14 PM »
I have a fruiting plant. It is a syzygium or Eugenia sp. I’ve heard conflicting reports on which genus it is. It’s really good and understated. Fruits are mild and sweet.
It also continuously fruits and flowers

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM »
Lol! I was scheduling a car to rent when taking a trip, and they had a "mystery sedan" and other similar options. Fruit of Mystery sounds good to me, and safer than car of mystery. Still waiting on Fruit of Misery to flower.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2023, 05:20:37 PM »
That's cool! I have a couple of those too lol. They are very small still, probably 1 month old.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2023, 05:30:39 PM »
brian, will you be selling seeds? I just checked Bellamy Trees and they are sold out. Thanks!

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2023, 05:32:41 PM »
brian, will you be selling seeds? I just checked Bellamy Trees and they are sold out. Thanks!

I might have bought out the last one... hehe

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2023, 06:02:26 PM »
HA!

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2023, 09:47:07 PM »
Very nice to hear they taste good, Jaboticaba45, thanks.  I agree it looks like syzgium or eugenia, but I'm no botanist.

I have way more plants than I have room for these days, but as this one seems ripe for bonsai culture it should be easy to make space for.  I started hanging the smallest trees from the ceiling of my greenhouse to make room.

Fliptop, if you want seeds I'll mail you some, they are small enough to mail as a "letter" for just the cost of a postage stamp.  But I'm getting ahead of myself... let's see if the fruit matures first :)

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2023, 11:12:05 PM »
[snip] I have way more plants than I have room for these days, but as this one seems ripe for bonsai culture it should be easy to make space for.  I started hanging the smallest trees from the ceiling of my greenhouse to make room.

Fliptop, if you want seeds I'll mail you some, they are small enough to mail as a "letter" for just the cost of a postage stamp.  But I'm getting ahead of myself... let's see if the fruit matures first :)

Hi Brian,

I'd be interested in a few seeds too, please, if all that fruit does manage to develop.

I also sent you a PM.

Paul M.
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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2023, 11:26:18 PM »
I have a few more ripe fruits. Seeds are $5 each (I only have probably 3-5 ATM)
I would've had more...everytime I ate a fruit I put the seed in a community pot, but I gave it to another visiting forum member last month.
Frutas Raras says its a eugenia.
It could really go either way but I lean towards eugenia also.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2023, 08:51:22 AM »
Looks and sounds quite like Eugenia reinwardtiana.
 
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=38764.msg383921#msg383921

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2023, 10:11:03 AM »
Looks and sounds quite like Eugenia reinwardtiana.
 
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=38764.msg383921#msg383921

It does look very much the same, Oqueel!  Maybe it is the same, or a variety of it.  The leaves and fruit seem slightly rounder in the generic wikipedia/elsewhere descriptions of Cedar Bay Cherry, and they are writing it as "large shrub to small tree" while the mystery fruit is supposedly very small on its own. 

Maybe Jaboticaba45 can post some detailed pictures if he gets a chance.  I will follow up with more photos over time, we can see how similar they are to the CBC photos around.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2023, 12:09:48 PM »
Here's what my Cedar Bay Cherries look like:

https://youtu.be/K7K5yy5HFBY

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2023, 12:32:00 PM »
i thought it was cedar bay cherry as well

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2023, 01:42:38 PM »
This is NOT cedar bay cherry. Much smaller leaves. This species was Identified a number of years ago in Brazil.
Just no one got around to naming it. The last years it was a syzygium. But I think more and more people are siding with eugenia.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2023, 01:44:44 PM »
And Brian,
just wanted to say well done. Your greenhouse is looking great!

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2023, 05:08:23 PM »
I am happy to hear it is different, simply because it is nice to try something new.  I realize there are a TON of eugenias out there and many are quite similar.

Thanks.  I am really pleased with the greenhouse.  I have been looking to buy land nearby to build a bunch more greenhouses, but with the massive increase in housing prices lately land itself has also become much more expensive.  It makes me sad to know that 90% of the trees I grow are destined to be trashed because there isn't enough room for everything.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2023, 05:13:51 PM »
I am happy to hear it is different, simply because it is nice to try something new.  I realize there are a TON of eugenias out there and many are quite similar.

Thanks.  I am really pleased with the greenhouse.  I have been looking to buy land nearby to build a bunch more greenhouses, but with the massive increase in housing prices lately land itself has also become much more expensive.  It makes me sad to know that 90% of the trees I grow are destined to be trashed because there isn't enough room for everything.
Tell me about it lol.
Right now where I'm at in life, my goal is to just grow the rarest stuff in pots, while I have the main food producing trees in the ground.
Then it's just cull whatever is bad and get more stuff...Maybe can expand the greenhouse one day.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2023, 07:57:33 PM »




Here’s a few pictures from a bit ago.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2023, 06:44:25 PM »
Wow, those are tiny fruit! Jaboticaba45, I like brian's price better 🤣🤣🤣

Seriously, I'll buy a couple off you and brian (though I really appreciate the offer, brian!).

Could you each pm me when seeds are ready?

Thanks!

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2023, 08:13:32 PM »
It has been overcast and rainy for a week, not much fruit progression since my initial post.  I will report back when they get ripe, I set the plant in front so I see it every time I walk by

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2023, 11:09:31 PM »
Wow, those are tiny fruit! Jaboticaba45, I like brian's price better 🤣🤣🤣

Seriously, I'll buy a couple off you and brian (though I really appreciate the offer, brian!).

Could you each pm me when seeds are ready?

Thanks!
LOL yesterday I made a video showcasing the tree but I forgot people wanted the seeds and I just threw it out.
Got some more fruit coming.

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Re: Bellamy "fruit of mystery" (uknown genus) setting fruit at 9mo from seed
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2023, 06:49:25 PM »
to add mystery to the story, marco lacerda who first promoted as the fruit of mystery got it in hawaii!