Tried it for the first time this year. Seeds from Baker. The direct sow in ground worked best. They start really slow, so I put a 2-liter on them to keep pests off. They eventually take off. At that time, when I tried to transplant the pot starts, they ended up sulking again and then they're just so far behind. I didn't keep any of the pot starts, so I don't know if they would have recovered. As long as you keep picking the beans, it seems to keep flowering, so I ended up only keeping 1 vine for our modest needs.